Briggs Loses Sleep Over Overflights

PLACERVILLE – Irked by low-flying cargo planes, an El Dorado County supervisor has fired off a sharply worded letter to Sacramento County environmental officials regarding the draft master plan for Mather Airport.

The missive from District 4 Supervisor Ron Briggs was sent Wednesday. Friday is the deadline for comments about the scope of the environmental impact study that must accompany the Mather master plan.

Jet cargo aircraft noise and air pollution from the big planes must be addressed in that environmental impact document, according to Briggs.

"The other night, I counted planes instead of sheep," Briggs said Thursday during a telephone interview.

Briggs said he lives in Gold Hill, between Placerville and Coloma. Jet cargo overflights have not been an issue in that area until recently, but now they are coming over with increasing frequency, he said.

Briggs said he is placing the Mather Airport issue on the agenda for his board's Dec. 11 meeting.

He will seek a resolution supporting the city of Folsom's lawsuit to halt any expansion of Mather Airport until the environmental impact analysis is completed.

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El Dorado supervisors say they'll seek noise solution through EIR.
By Cathy Locke - clocke@sacbee.com

Published 12:00 am PST Thursday, December 20, 2007
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El Dorado County officials say they will work to ensure that noise caused by low-flying cargo planes is addressed in the environmental analysis of Sacramento County's master plan for development of Mather Airport.

But the Board of Supervisors last week declined to take a position on the master plan or a lawsuit filed by the city of Folsom that challenges the Sacramento County Board of Supervisors' decision in October to allows expansion of DHL Express cargo facilities at Mather.

El Dorado County board members instead said they will press for solutions to noise problems through the environmental analysis required for the plan.

Supervisor Ron Briggs had asked his colleagues to review the airport master plan and consider what actions the board might take in light of ongoing complaints from county residents who say they are being awakened at night and in the early-morning hours by cargo planes flying over their homes.

Briggs, a resident of the rural Gold Hill area, between Coloma and Placerville, said he now counts himself among those residents affected by the noise. The aircraft used to come in farther north over the American River, he said, but "the planes have been scooting further south."

In the past year and a half, Briggs said, they've been flying over his house.

Supervisor Rusty Dupray said overflight noise has been an issue since he was elected to the board seven years ago, as it was for his predecessor. The complaints come in cycles, Dupray said, adding that he hadn't received any for about a year, but calls began coming in again recently.

When airplanes follow the prescribed flight path, he said, there is a significant decrease in noise.

"The problem is, they don't do it consistently," Dupray said, adding that it's up to pilots to choose the landing approach they deem necessary for their safety and the safety of the aircraft.

El Dorado County may have to consider litigation at some point, Dupray said, but he argued against joining Folsom's lawsuit because it does not directly address the airport master plan.

But, he added, "By Folsom taking on Mather in this regard, I think it's got their attention."

Folsom seeks a temporary restraining order to halt Sacramento County's implementation of its new lease amendment with Midwest Development Co. and its subtenant, DHL Express. Because the improvements are included in the draft master plan, Folsom officials argue that they should not be approved until the environmental review for the plan is completed.

Hardy Acree, Sacramento County airport director, attended the Dec. 11 board meeting. The improvements targeted by the lawsuit, he said, involve expanding the parking lot for DHL employees, who had started using other tenants' parking and parking on the street.

The parking lot expansion is covered by an environmental impact report completed in 1994 for current airport facilities, Acree said. The need for additional parking for facilities leased by Midwest Development Co. was anticipated, he said, adding that it was to be provided at such time as airport directors deemed it necessary.

"It does not add one ounce of airspace or airfield capacity," Acree said.

The overflight noise issue is complicated, he said. A 2004 test that involved shifting the flight path farther south met with such protest that it was cut short, he recalled.

Noise complaints won't go away "until they design an aircraft you can't see and you can't hear," Acree said.

Folsom resident Bill Bryant urged El Dorado County supervisors to be alert to actions like the recent change in the airport lease agreement, saying it amounted to a piecemeal approach to the expansion proposed in the master plan. He argued that the 1994 environmental report provides "stale information."

"We need to stop them from doing a blink here and a blink there," he said.

Supervisor Jack Sweeney said the environmental review process is the appropriate vehicle for dealing with potential effects of the airport master plan. The board needs to be vigilant in reviewing those documents and commenting on them in "a correct and scientific manner," he said.

Board Chairwoman Helen Baumann said the next step is to comment on the draft environmental impact report, likely to be released in the middle of next year.

"That's where the rubber meets the road, with comments on the draft EIR," she said.

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Way to go, Sup! Thank you for bringing that up with Sac. Let's do our best to try and keep mountain folks and National Forest Wildlife undisturbed by low-flying cargo if possible.
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Ron Briggs is a straight up liar.Do you remember his campaign?There is no limit to how low this scum will go.I live in that area too and maybe there are a few more flights but they were always there and always just as loud.Maybe he thinks that he can use his influence to raise his property values.The economy is already in bad shape and this guy wants to slow down commerce so he can have increased property value.Thanks for thinking of yourself first Ron Briggs.Some of us will remember you and your crooked ways come election time.Maybe all you anti-American types can go live some place else.
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I don't know about the planes but I can say that Ron Briggs is a total embarassment.We don't need people like him in El Dorado County.
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Get over Ron, you are just looking for a platform. Dim planes aint a hurtin no bodies.

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cycleman1955 at 6:37 AM PST Friday, November 30, 2007 wrote:

Cargo Planes

I live directly under the path of the cargo jets...in El Dorado Hills. I happen to like airplane noise.

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norcal2 at 7:48 AM PST Friday, November 30, 2007 wrote:

Wah Wah wah

The airport was there a lot longer than the homes were...deal with it Eldo Supervisor...perhaps you should have lived there when Mather was a working Air Force Base...

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cgrcelt at 8:06 AM PST Friday, November 30, 2007 wrote:

Yep, move the air traffic so it only impacts 'people of color.'

Rich folks will get their way, again. Just move the pattern over to the 'other side of the tracks.' Then the Environmental Justice attorneys can pander to and use 'people of color' to line their pockets. Not to mention the pockets of all the other lawyers who would be involved.

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SoleTaxPayer at 8:30 AM PST Friday, November 30, 2007 wrote:

Your kidding right?

Mather used to be a B-52 base now those birds were loud and spewed tons of smog.Whats a couple of wimpy cargo jets doing bunching your panties?

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deerra at 8:46 AM PST Friday, November 30, 2007 wrote:

 

If you move into a house located near an airport and then complain about the noise then you are a fool. The more you complain, the more foolish you look.

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fazman at 9:04 AM PST Friday, November 30, 2007 wrote:

Airplanes make noise, get over it or move

Housing development is encroaching on the approach and departure patterns of an active runways, not the other way around. McClellan, Mather, and Executive have been active for decades, though Mather and McClellan have transitioned to primary civilian usage from military, nonetheless active, and now Ron Briggs has issue with the noise?
He should have thought about that before he chose where to live or then again things must be monotonous in El Dorado County to where he's looking to justify his position by stirring things up.

I'm sure he'd prefer the UPS or DHL Cargo Jet versus a B-52, either way aircraft produce noise so deal with it.

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freegene at 9:08 AM PST Friday, November 30, 2007 wrote:

Politicians ....

Here is another politician whining about the progress makers, who lines their fat wallets with cash and feeds and clothes their children. Slay the money makers! But then who shall we steal all the money from??

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David_L_U at 9:25 AM PST Friday, November 30, 2007 wrote:

Typical Eldorado County supervisor.

First you and your cronies approve bulding in the flight path, then you complain about the noise for your right wing constituants. it is OK for others to put up with environmental impacts, but not for the good conservative citizens of Eldorado County.

If the liberals complain about an environmental problem, it is bad for the business of your onstcituents. If the business interferes with your consevative friends it is bad or them, it is also bad for them.

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b17integra at 12:43 PM PST Friday, November 30, 2007 wrote:

 

Hey Biggs if you don't like the noise then move. Mather Field has been there a lot longer than you have. When you purchased you home did you take into consideration that you living in a flight path. Live with the noise or move. You cry baby.

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Kayadad at 1:08 PM PST Friday, November 30, 2007 wrote:

 

i went to Jr high in Rosemont. I remember when we used to have to stop classes in the portables when B52's were taking off. The buildings would shake. What is a couple of cargo jets??

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bronzeboar at 3:29 PM PST Friday, November 30, 2007 wrote:

Ron Brigg's....

...another NIMBY who needs to move.

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kaigierice at 3:55 PM PST Friday, November 30, 2007 wrote:

Leadership?

Does Ron Briggs put the same effort into researching his job decisions as Disrtict 4 Supervisor in El Dorado Hills that he put into buying his home there?
It is like buying a Hummer today then complaining about gas prices. Duh.

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superbird6 at 7:57 AM PST Saturday, December 1, 2007 wrote:

Whiners make arrivals/departures more dangerous

What a lot of people don't realize is that these whiners like Briggs often end up making the arrivals and departures more dangerous by causing earlier and tighter turns at lower altitudes. Anybody off to the side of the normal flightpath want a stalled jet in your living room? The previous posts say it all: Don't move near an airport if you can't stand aircraft noise. Sounds like p*ss poor planning and decision making to me.

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blondielocks at 9:20 AM PST Saturday, December 1, 2007 wrote:

cgrcelt ???

Excuse me, what do you mean 'people of color' are the ones on the 'other side of the tracks' vs. the rich ones in EDH? Where are the 'tracks' and I don't see a line there separating rich white people and poor 'people of color'........ me thinks you went a little overboard in your typecasting.

There are people of many colors living in EDH, perhaps spoiled by their quiet lifestyle. Change isn't bad. Share the noise. And, like cycleman1955 says, some people like the sound of planes overhead.

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blondielocks at 9:28 AM PST Saturday, December 1, 2007 wrote:

Open letter to Ron Briggs:

Dear Ron, if you don't like the sound of airplanes, how about moving further down Hwy. 50 towards downtown, near the trains. The sound of a passing train in the middle of the night is a cool sound, maybe you'd like it better than 2 cargo planes going over. And home prices are cheaper here too!

Sincerely,
Plane and train lover.

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ercla at 12:02 PM PST Thursday, November 29, 2007 wrote:

So he can't sleep...

I see issues get worked on when they effect you. However, a small group of private folks in Georgetown are still paying to keep the city lights on. How many more years till this issue gets resolved?

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outacali at 12:15 PM PST Thursday, November 29, 2007 wrote:

From a Folsom resident...

I'm not sure if I'll be the first to post for this article but let me be the first to say that I hope the Folsom and El Dorado officials don't let Sac County and Mather officials get their way. All you people who wag their fingers at Folsom and El Do County residents for "knowingly buying a home under flight path" can go jump off a cliff. I've owned homes in Sac, Citrus Heights and Carmichael in my many years of living in the area and all of my previous homes were in a "flight path" but not until moving to Folsom were my windows rattled, my pictures shaken and my sleep completely disrupted by low flying planes. Not only is this a DHL issue but a military issue too. All you finger waggers have no room to speak about this issue until you've had an Army B-52 refueler doing touch and goes for hours on end over your house producing noise so great your surround sound speakers become inadequate. The pollution and threat of a crash is huge. These planes do fly low.Loss of life would be huge.

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pswoods at 1:28 PM PST Thursday, November 29, 2007 wrote:

No One Told Me

15 years ago, the base was closed for all intents and purposes. How was I supposed to know that at 18 miles away from the runway I was in the flight path of an active airport? The EIR needs to include El Dorado County at least up to North Shingle/South Shingle Roads.

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dwh at 1:38 PM PST Thursday, November 29, 2007 wrote:

Ironically

years ago these same county supervisor groups gave the OK to build homes near these airports.Now they want to complain?

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rockowon at 2:20 PM PST Thursday, November 29, 2007 wrote:

Dear outacali

You need to "jump off a cliff," as you say and stop your finger wagging! Just so you know "flight paths" extend in a slightly curved line from both ends of a runway. Unless someone has rotated the runways, Sac, Citrus Heights, and Carmichael are not in any flight paths. By your definition everyone is in a flightpath.If you have so many issues with the idea, do as your user name says, go outacali.

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btsacbee at 2:24 PM PST Thursday, November 29, 2007 wrote:

finger wagger

Looking at the map of the flight path into mather that the bee recently published, it seems obvious enough that slightly shifting the flight path south of 50,over largely undeveloped areas would alleviate most of these concerns. Until of course the undeveloped areas, become developed, and the homeowners there claim they had no idea about this airfield that has existed since 1918.

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Football3 at 2:50 PM PST Thursday, November 29, 2007 wrote:

Its about time...fo Regional Economic Growth

These people need to get there self serving heads out of the sand and take a look at reality..... Private sector business is what this City and region needs and just because a couple of well healed communities are complaining that a couple of planes fly over instead of just birds, should not be allowed to stifle the growth of the entire region.

For god sake, have you ever been to San Diego’s Linburg Field. The planes flight path takes them in-between large building, over highway 5 ( Just a couple of hundred feet above) and land right in the middle of the city…Sure is convenient, and sure beats driving 45 minutes or more to the far off rice fields of Sacramento’s Airport.

Maybe we could get some commercial flights out of Mather and we could all save some time…

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heresy at 3:37 PM PST Thursday, November 29, 2007 wrote:

No sympathy here

pswoods: When I bought my home, I signed a statement that said I knew I was living in the flight path of McClellan AFB. If you can prove that they did not let you know you were buying a house in the flight path, you can sue for damages. It is more likely that you signed the form and forgot it.

outacali: I have lived in flight paths most of my life. This is what it means to be in a flight path. If you did not understand this, tough. If you don't like it, sell your house and move. The level of the exercises you are hearing is much less than what we heard when the base was active. We have lost dishes in the cupboards over the years due to touch and go exercises near various Air Force bases.

No EIR should be required for the current or proposed levels of airport usage, as they are not expanding beyond the AFB usage of the air space. Unless you bought your house before the base was built, you knew there was an air field in the area, even if it was not actively being used.

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sacskier at 5:13 PM PST Thursday, November 29, 2007 wrote:

Whiney citizens

How many more whiney citizens must we hear from? Flight paths have been in existence for decades. If you built your house under a flight path, even if it wasn't used, tough. You should have done your homework. You are just like the same whiners that live in North Natomas who want to stop the expansion of Sacramento International. To those whiners, the rest of us say 'tough' as well. If you are going to buy a home or land, you better do all of your research first. Yes, Mather was closed. If you had done your homework, you would have noted that everyone planned on a future use for the Mather land which included use of the runways. Yes, cargo shipping was mentioned as a potential use back in the late 1980s. Before that, you had B-52 coming and going. If you are still unhappy, move. Quit wasting everyone else's time with your very public whining.

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kdast at 5:13 PM PST Thursday, November 29, 2007 wrote:

Response to football3 and others

It is more than just "a couple of flights." The time of day the flights are occurring is also an issue (early a.m. during sleep and primetime in the evening). As a resident of EDH, I can tell you the flights do seem to be coming in lower. A few years ago, one hardly noticed the planes, but now you can actually be awakened at 5:00 a.m. by one. Can Mather expand and increase flights. Yes. Can it be a freeforall and do whatever they want plan. No. Regardless of you opinion on the subject (and those who live in the area - judging by some stereotypical statements) safety and the environment are important issues.

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sacresident231 at 9:34 PM PST Thursday, November 29, 2007 wrote:

Deal with it!

All those fancy people who are up in the hills who are complaining aren't going to be very happy if they can't get their very important package overnight!!!! Deal with it, you chose to purchase a house that is UP IN THE HILLS in a direct FLIGHT PATH. Planes go to airports, stop your whining and deal with it. Otherwise you won't be able to pay the bills because all those important documents that you need to have delivered won't get overnight

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YoYo__ at 9:43 AM PST Friday, November 30, 2007 wrote:

set it straight

The B-52 is a Air Force Plane it has never been Army also it is a Bomber not a Air Refueler the KC-135 and KC-10 are Air refuelers. Since the Base closed I have on seen a B-52 land when they have had Air Shows. The only Military Air planes I have seen do touch and goes are T-38's and those are mostly during the daytime and every once an a while a C-5 since the base closed.

As other have said the Air Field has been there for a long time as a bases an as a cargo terminal since the base closed.

If those in Eldorado's county want to stop pollution let stop all building in there county that are in area that have asbestos issues.

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